Without  a doubt friendship is the greatest gift in life and in this regard I am very fortunate. In conversations with some people I have met in recent weeks I see the seeds of friendship, and others have been my friends for a decade or two or three or more.

More than four decades ago I met friend Barry Taylor who in this podcast shares his broad, deep and personal experience of working with people who suffer.

This podcast is a great gift to all of us. Tap on the image below to listen.